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Has anyone used an Outliner text editor? Just downloaded/started to play with The Vim Outliner [1] and it looks pretty useful, although I'm not sure how I'm going to be able to tie it in with MarkDown [2] just yet.
There's also hnb [3] but not tried that one yet...
Curious if the concept is good for orgaising brain notes et al.
[1] bike-nomad.com/vim/vimoutliner.html
[2] daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/
[3] hnb.sourceforge.net/
There's also hnb [3] but not tried that one yet...
Curious if the concept is good for orgaising brain notes et al.
[1] bike-nomad.com/vim/vimoutliner.html
[2] daringfireball.net/projects/markdown/
[3] hnb.sourceforge.net/
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Re: Outlining in Text Editors
Fri, June 17, 2005 - 8:19 AMI'm not generally vey enthused by outliners myself : too hierarchical for my taste - give me a rhyzome of pages any day. :-)
But I am intrigued by Dave Winer's coming OPML product which will allow a small group to share a tree of outlines. I don't think that's a combination (client-based, http protocol, shared, hierarchical) that we've seen before.
Comment On ExpandingBrain, a blog dedicated to outlining.
expandingbrain.com/blog/
also has a "Decline of outliners" story : expandingbrain.com/blog/
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Re: Outlining in Text Editors
Fri, June 17, 2005 - 8:35 AMAnother thing I forgot to mention, I find I'm starting to write a bit of an outliner now in SdiDesk.
I didn't plan to. I was simply trying to nail some bugs in the code which renders the nested bullet lists. However, the code was getting a bit long and convoluted, a so I realized I needed a more coherent way to parse and process it. In the last week, I've found myself writing a NestedBulletList class which is essentially a recursive tree structure to represent these lists, and which also handles the parsing and rendering of them.
It could easily be adapted to allow sub-trees to be hidden or not and provide some other outliner-like features. I already record whether items are "checked" etc. I could record whether they're open, or the estimated time, or the percent done, too. (I have some Perl which already does something like this from a couple of years ago.)
Not sure I want to go that way yet. What's more likely, short term, is that I'll make outlines a separate page-type, the way network diagrams and tables are. This would allow me to have a special edit modes for them, as with these other types, that could include a standard expanding / collapsing view.